A quick rhetorical question

How many of the men now saying “Isla Vista isn’t about misogyny” also said moderate Muslims need to condemn all Islamic terrorism?

9 thoughts on “A quick rhetorical question

  1. Horace Boothroyd III

    Chris – did you break with PZ Myers over his bizzarro New Atheist crusade against the Moslems, or were you cool with that?

  2. Chris Clarke Post author

    Chris – did you break with PZ Myers over his bizzarro [sic] New Atheist crusade against the Moslems, or were you cool with that?

    You’ve managed to be irrelevant, factually inaccurate, off-topic, logically flawed, and boring in fewer than 25 words. Kudos.

  3. Mike Lerch

    Chris, the murderer cited his hated for both women and men, and killed 2 of the former and 4 of the latter. Why do so many think it was about misogyny?

    In a similar vein, why do people think the Holocaust was about anti-Semitism, when in addition to the 6 million Jews who were killed another 5 million Roma, gays, and disabled people also were killed? Where is the Zion for them?

    Why do we cry about the children of Sandy Hook or Columbine but not the dozens of homeless and mentally ill who are taken out every day because they didn’t follow the orders of the police and reached into their waistbands?

    And on and on it goes, including whether victims of military activities, including drones, are “terrorists” or not.

    You asked a rhetorical question, and my rhetorical answer is “Why does the identity of the victim matter in terms of how we (and “our” media) respond?”

  4. Chris Clarke Post author

    Chris, the murderer cited his hated for both women and men, and killed 2 of the former and 4 of the latter. Why do so many think it was about misogyny?

    Because we took him at his word. His hatred for men rotated around their getting “his” women when they were undeserving. Rodger was a racist in addition to being a misogynist: look at the men he killed. And had he not been thwarted by the sorority’s security system, the death toll would have been very different.

    You’ve got a lot of good questions in your comment about our differential responses to tragedies. I’ve wondered about the answers to some of them myself.

    But the reason “so many think [Isla Vista] was about misogyny is because it was an avowed misogynistic hate crime. The reason the identity of his victims, actual and intended, matters in terms of how we respond is because it’s part of an ongoing epidemic of assaults against women for the crime of being women, which our society has been supremely reluctant to admit is even taking place.

    It’s time to admit it’s taking place.